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and if you day after day, week after week, election after election are running on that platform, and that permeates our culture and it's picked up by ordinary citizens who grow skeptical, then it's not surprising that over time trust in government declines. but as i said in a speech yesterday, the biggest issue that i see out on the horizon is how do we make sure an economy works for everybody and that every one of these young people can get a good job, pursue a career, support a family, not be loaded up by a hundred thousand dollars worth of debt. actually buy a home. how do we do those things that reduce inequality in our society and broaden opportunity? and government can't solve all of that, and we live in an economy that is global and technological and is changing faster than ever before in history, but government can't stand on the sidelines when we're doing that. and without some faith in our capacity for collective action, those trends are going to get worse. so we've got to -- and the young people in particular have to understand government is us. government's not somebody e
and if you day after day, week after week, election after election are running on that platform, and that permeates our culture and it's picked up by ordinary citizens who grow skeptical, then it's not surprising that over time trust in government declines. but as i said in a speech yesterday, the biggest issue that i see out on the horizon is how do we make sure an economy works for everybody and that every one of these young people can get a good job, pursue a career, support a family, not be...
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how he is spreading the new message and how it will impact democrats running for re-election and how president clinton fits into the plan. and we'll huddle around the cooler. a true sign of the season. lewis is also outdoors. barnicle and are kind of lonely. he's near the christmas tree somewhere. it's donut friday at the office. and i'm low man on the totem pole. so every friday morning they send me out to get the goods. but what they don't know is that i'm using my citi thankyou card at the coffee shop, so i get 2 times the points. and those points add up fast. so, sure, make me the grunt. 'cause i'll be using those points to help me get to a beach in miami. and allllllll the big shots will be stuck here at the cube farm. the citi thankyou preferred card. now earn 2x the points on dining out and entertainment, with no annual fee.to apply, go to citi.com/thankyoucards [ female announcer ] let betty do the measuring and get a head start on delicious homemade cookies. visit bettycrockercookies.com for fun holiday ideas. betty crocker cookie mix. just pour, mix...love. betty crocker co
how he is spreading the new message and how it will impact democrats running for re-election and how president clinton fits into the plan. and we'll huddle around the cooler. a true sign of the season. lewis is also outdoors. barnicle and are kind of lonely. he's near the christmas tree somewhere. it's donut friday at the office. and i'm low man on the totem pole. so every friday morning they send me out to get the goods. but what they don't know is that i'm using my citi thankyou card at the...
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this is like looking as election night returns five minutes after the polls 0 close. we don't know yet. >> what is interesting or what we're finding out, in a lot of states it's not just the republican governor states or republican leader states that are having the problems. in in maryland, dominated by a democratic government and legislature. it's one of the biggest problems, and that flies the the in face or of what the administration is arguing, the republican governors are trying to tear this thing apart and stop it in its tracks. >> it's too early. the results are too early. the real issue here, neil, when you look at what these people are expected to buy. young people are expected to pay 10% of their after-tax income for health insurance policy that might have a $2,000 deduct illinois and some states the deductible is up to $6,000. these people are the healthy, invincibles and not a lot of people have disposable income no matter they're age to to have to put 10% of your disposable income out for something that is a piece of paper with a big deductible, is an uph
this is like looking as election night returns five minutes after the polls 0 close. we don't know yet. >> what is interesting or what we're finding out, in a lot of states it's not just the republican governor states or republican leader states that are having the problems. in in maryland, dominated by a democratic government and legislature. it's one of the biggest problems, and that flies the the in face or of what the administration is arguing, the republican governors are trying to...
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they say they and paneleded it until after the 2014 elections. next year people will pay much higher prices than this year. so i think long term, we submitted a plan. the president talks about a plan that he is open to plans women submitted a plan. myself, paul ryan, senator co-bush, we introduced a bill before it was introduced. >> one of the things that i think is pretty cool about this booking, i'm not just saying this. you are two of the most candid people on capitol hill and that says a lot. a lot of candid people up there. so let's just assume for the sake of argument that what you say is true and that you're going to keep believing that what you believe. but you're also a practical politician. you know in your heart of hearts that nothing is going to change as long as the president is in office, right if. >> i take president at his word. the president says we have good ideas. we single him a letter four years ago. that deal is still there. we could take our plan, let people sign up for the republican plan. let people sign up for his plan.
they say they and paneleded it until after the 2014 elections. next year people will pay much higher prices than this year. so i think long term, we submitted a plan. the president talks about a plan that he is open to plans women submitted a plan. myself, paul ryan, senator co-bush, we introduced a bill before it was introduced. >> one of the things that i think is pretty cool about this booking, i'm not just saying this. you are two of the most candid people on capitol hill and that...
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and then, after that, we have one year options, that are at the port election and so there is no requirement to relocate after that initial five-year term and this is just if we wanted to move them even earlier. >> and within the first five years. >> but the extensions, that does not apply. >> the extensions it does not apply, and this was really, negotiating back from their request for a ten-year location. and so we appreciated their flexibility and in responding to the options that we put forward and we also appreciated forest city accepting the idea that some of these ten sendcies will exist at the water front site beyond their entitlement dates and when we first negotiated the dna there was a thought that we might deliver the whole site clean free of tenants and we have done work with both parties to get more comfortable with the longer term leasing. >> is the current estimate that in the first five years, given that the forest city is in the development that they will not probably face that relocation issue but it could be the case after five years? >> that is right. >> okay. that is th
and then, after that, we have one year options, that are at the port election and so there is no requirement to relocate after that initial five-year term and this is just if we wanted to move them even earlier. >> and within the first five years. >> but the extensions, that does not apply. >> the extensions it does not apply, and this was really, negotiating back from their request for a ten-year location. and so we appreciated their flexibility and in responding to the...
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we had john after he was elected talking to the public union saying we're going to get a great deal for you. he was representing the taxpayer. >> most of us will vote for more police, better fire, better sewage, better public -- do you think public employees need the protection of a union? are they protected against horrible municipal bosses? >> not like the private sector did better. you have to look to new york and the auto makers -- >> only place you have unions anymore. >> the union movement. it's starting to come back. it's sustaining the middle class in america. >> let's get to bruce about the adp report. we've had discussions already today bruce, about whether whatever the fed saw to not taper, the shutdown didn't seem to affect the last jobs number. will this be a 200 jobs number or decent jobs number? >> we're looking for a decent number, around 180,000. fundamentally the economy sound generating job growth. there's a little bit of a tailoff partly because of the late thanksgiving which we think will hurt a little in the retail sector in terms hiring. it's going to be solid. we
we had john after he was elected talking to the public union saying we're going to get a great deal for you. he was representing the taxpayer. >> most of us will vote for more police, better fire, better sewage, better public -- do you think public employees need the protection of a union? are they protected against horrible municipal bosses? >> not like the private sector did better. you have to look to new york and the auto makers -- >> only place you have unions anymore....
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>> did republicans just catch chris chris tie helping a democratic man get elected? [ molly ] honey. whoa! sweet mother of softness. paws off pal. just one squeeze? just enjoy it with your eyes. [ female announcer ] new charmin ultra soft is so soft, you don't even have to squeeze it to believe it. for the first time, you can actually see the softness with our new comfort cushions. new charmin ultra soft is still so much softer and more absorbent, you can use up to four times less. i believe it, but i still gotta squeeze it. [ female announcer ] used by more plumbers, charmin is now clog-free or it's free. i don't miss out... you sat out most of our game yesterday! asthma doesn't affect my job... you were out sick last week. my asthma doesn't bother my family... you coughed all through our date night! i hardly use my rescue inhaler at all. what did you say? how about - every day? coping with asthma isn't controlling it. test your level of control at asthma.com, then talk to your doctor. there may be more you could do for your asthma. >>> chris christie's road to the
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anybody saying they are sure this issue will play big in the 2014 elections i just think is making it up. i don't think we have any idea how this issue is going play in the 2014 elections. >> david made a big prediction this weekend. let's listen to this. >> there is a huge interest out there. by the end of march, most people think you could have six, seven, eight million people registered for health care. >> only if there is a rapid increase. >> but you see the interest out there. people want health care. they're going to be able to get health care. if the website is working. and to your question, we live in a social world right now. people will tell their siblings or talk to their brothers and sisters. i think what you're beginning to see is it is an easy experience. >> was that an evidence based statement? >> there is some evidence behind it. if you look at every past expansion like this one, medicare part d, which is the prescription drug benefit. there was very weak enrollment in the beginning. so they have got everybody in towards the end. it's a different program and different
anybody saying they are sure this issue will play big in the 2014 elections i just think is making it up. i don't think we have any idea how this issue is going play in the 2014 elections. >> david made a big prediction this weekend. let's listen to this. >> there is a huge interest out there. by the end of march, most people think you could have six, seven, eight million people registered for health care. >> only if there is a rapid increase. >> but you see the interest...
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i guess he's not going to win the next election. maybe he will win the biggest loser. >> a new annual report called the youthful cities index which compares all the world's major cities has determined that toronto is the world's most youthful city. they judge on diversity, entertainment options, public spaces and does your mayor smoke crack. berlin was the second most youthful city. new york came in third and the world's oldest city, the world's least most youthful city? metamucilton,illinois. la was number eight. we may not be the most youthful city but we definitely have the most paralyzed foreheads here. i know a lot of you are here vacationing. did any of you in our studio audience wait in line for a black friday sale? there was a lot of black friday audience. i was always told that you can't put a life on human life but apparently it's $8.99. at a kohl's in illinois, one shopper was shot in the arm by police. in vegas, a man was shot in the leg. this happened around 2:30 friday morning in philadelphia where one of the come bbat
i guess he's not going to win the next election. maybe he will win the biggest loser. >> a new annual report called the youthful cities index which compares all the world's major cities has determined that toronto is the world's most youthful city. they judge on diversity, entertainment options, public spaces and does your mayor smoke crack. berlin was the second most youthful city. new york came in third and the world's oldest city, the world's least most youthful city?...
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and if you, day after day, week after week, election after election, are running on that platform, and that permeates our culture, and it's picked up by, you know, ordinary citizens who grow skeptical, then it's not surprising that over time trust in government declines. but as i said in a speech yesterday, the biggest issue that i see out in the horizon is how do we make sure an economy works for everybody. and that every one of these young people can get a good job, pursue a career, support a family, not be loaded up by $100,000 worth of debt. actually, you know, buy a home. how do we do those things that reduce inequality in our society and broaden opportunity. and government can't solve all of that. and we live in an economy that is global and technological, and is changing faster than ever before in history. but government can't stand on the sidelines when we're doing that. and without some faith in our capacity for collective action, those trends are going to get worse. so we've got to -- and the young people in particular, have to understand, government is us. government is not
and if you, day after day, week after week, election after election, are running on that platform, and that permeates our culture, and it's picked up by, you know, ordinary citizens who grow skeptical, then it's not surprising that over time trust in government declines. but as i said in a speech yesterday, the biggest issue that i see out in the horizon is how do we make sure an economy works for everybody. and that every one of these young people can get a good job, pursue a career, support a...
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it was a remarkably close election. so i always come out here with a lot of different i motions -- emotions, and i'm glad to be here tonight. and i'm going to talk about american exceptionalism really in three bites. you know, first of all i'm going to talk a little bit about what calista's been doing which is aimed at teaching 4-8-year-olds about american exceptionalism and american history, something which we tragically find more and more of our young people are not learning in school, and so they need help learning it. then i'm going to talk briefly about lincoln and tomorrow's 150th anniversary of what may have been one of the most important speeches in american history and if many ways -- in many ways one of the most important speeches in human history because it described a standard we should meet, and then i'm going to talk about "breakout" which in some ways is the culmination of my 55 years going back to 1958 of trying to understand what we need to do as a country. in '58 my dad was stationed in france, convinc
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and to celebrate the first democratic elections in south africa we were in our hotel looking over at the ceremonies in a park and flying over us were 11 jets roaring, fighter jets roaring above our heads, fanning out in vapor trails the colors of the south african flag. the jets were flown by black south african women, symbolically that caused us much celebration in our hotel. and since apartheid ended two million homes have been -- millions of homes have been built, millions of homes have been electrified in south africa, black families now have virtually tripled in the country. so nelson mandela ushered in a dramatically different kind of south africa. and we thought that it was our responsibility to play a small part in that struggle, because our country was a major part of the black communities problem in south africa. we were on the wrong side of the issue and on the wrong side of history. >> schieffer: it is story that has not yet ended and story that goes on. mr. robinson, thank you so much for being with us today. >> thank you for having me. >> schieffer: we'll be back in one
and to celebrate the first democratic elections in south africa we were in our hotel looking over at the ceremonies in a park and flying over us were 11 jets roaring, fighter jets roaring above our heads, fanning out in vapor trails the colors of the south african flag. the jets were flown by black south african women, symbolically that caused us much celebration in our hotel. and since apartheid ended two million homes have been -- millions of homes have been built, millions of homes have been...
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. >> congressman, everybody believes obama care will be a center piece argument within the 2014 election. sort of a moving target. we don't know what it will signature fi because it's improving in some ways and arguments against it keep changing. if one of your colleagues, if a house dem came to you and said, what should i do here? should i run on obama care or kind of hide and move away from it, what would your advice? >> we own it but we have to be all in on improving it. i have a contrarian view, the american people know the health care debate is over, that we've got to make this work. the real issue is going to be the economy. the average wages of working americans declined in the past ten years, how do rewe restore growth in the pocket books not just in the stock market for the american people? we've got to lean in on that and start addressing the concerns of parents trying to send their kids to college, get them jobs. retirement security, these are things that have been put on the side and it's really a discredit that congress is focusing on middle class concerns. >> congressman, t
. >> congressman, everybody believes obama care will be a center piece argument within the 2014 election. sort of a moving target. we don't know what it will signature fi because it's improving in some ways and arguments against it keep changing. if one of your colleagues, if a house dem came to you and said, what should i do here? should i run on obama care or kind of hide and move away from it, what would your advice? >> we own it but we have to be all in on improving it. i have a...
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in 2010, we elected a republican congress in the house because of obama care. we're going to basically get another shot here of winning a senate on the same issues, so three senate seats today that are open. another three or four that are vulnerable and we need to pick up six seats. if we do, the game has changed dramatically. >> this powell, 81% of respondents believe the law should be changed or repealed. let's just work with changed since that's probably easier at the moment. it's impossible for me today not to look through the lens of nelson mandela, but is there any way that the white house and republicans could ever just come together and figure out how to fix this thing? >> well, i would hope they would and certainly that is the legacy, the enduring legacy of mandela, which is compromise rising above your circumstances, but i think this president has picked a very different strategy. he is going to double down on obama care and he is going to attack the republicans and let's be clear while the democrats have huge political liabilities, the republicans ha
in 2010, we elected a republican congress in the house because of obama care. we're going to basically get another shot here of winning a senate on the same issues, so three senate seats today that are open. another three or four that are vulnerable and we need to pick up six seats. if we do, the game has changed dramatically. >> this powell, 81% of respondents believe the law should be changed or repealed. let's just work with changed since that's probably easier at the moment. it's...
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we had an election about this. why? because we are a better country that this. joining me now is congressman, democrat from pennsylvania and the president of the center of american progress. she introduced president obama at his speech today. thank you both for being here. >> thank you for having me, reverend. >> congressman, let me go to you first. the defining challenge of our time. that's the quote from the president. isn't it something that congress has the moral duty to address? >> the congress and the country. this is the most important speech of all of the speeches in the entire career of barack obama. this is the most important speech he has given and will be recorded, i think, as so. it is also one of the most important speeches i think ever given by the american president because he really laid out that our country cannot stand with a circumstances of haves and have-nots, that we have to see things more not about charity, but he was really arguing about an enlightened self-interest on the country to educate our young people. we need to provide employme
we had an election about this. why? because we are a better country that this. joining me now is congressman, democrat from pennsylvania and the president of the center of american progress. she introduced president obama at his speech today. thank you both for being here. >> thank you for having me, reverend. >> congressman, let me go to you first. the defining challenge of our time. that's the quote from the president. isn't it something that congress has the moral duty to...
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she served as president for 12 years before her election as a ft president in 2008. that ends the biographical portion of the program. as always, we are on the record here. please no live blogging retweeting or other means of filing well this is underway. there is no embargo on the breakfast. our friends at c-span have agreed not to air video of the session until one hour after the broadcast is over to give reporters time to file. give me a nonthreatening signal and i will call on one and all. low on the subtleties scale, but nonthreatening anyway. he nonthreatening is what i'm concerned about. we will offer our guests the opportunity to make some opening comments and then we will move around the table. >> first of all i just want to say thank you for all of you for being here. and thank you for letting me engage in this give-and-take with everyone. can you hear me? i am an asthmatic. when i am sitting instead of standing, i have to actually really use my lungs. it is an interesting -- i riff on that a little bit, because it is interesting when i start talking about
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>> the next one for the 2013 elections. thank you. last time i checked the is the commander in chief. and of the executive branch. that is called a leader. that is exactly what he was elected to do, to be the leader. style. once again he is passing the buck. the blame starts with them. >> here is something else that the president said in the same interview, invest in b.c. tweeted this out. lou: i can't wait for this. >> ", government is not somebody else. government is us. we have the capacity to change it. what that tells you is when this president up in his mouth, what comes out is just black bird. u cannot take it seriously. >> that is the foundation of the very strong, pass an income and personal philosophy. >> well, in a way it is between of the president wants not to eliminate government departments some of them should be. the thing so why does he propose that we not eliminate them. we know that want to increase the size of government, hire more people and give government more power and take it away from congress or if congress
>> the next one for the 2013 elections. thank you. last time i checked the is the commander in chief. and of the executive branch. that is called a leader. that is exactly what he was elected to do, to be the leader. style. once again he is passing the buck. the blame starts with them. >> here is something else that the president said in the same interview, invest in b.c. tweeted this out. lou: i can't wait for this. >> ", government is not somebody else. government is...
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and what will be the impact of obama care on the 2014 elections, and even perhaps the 2016 presidential race? >>> plus, an historic week for pope francis with his first major statement, attacking what he calls, quote, the idolatry of money. what continues is a whirlwind change for the vatican. i'll go one on one with cardinal timothy dolan of new york. he is one of the leading cardinals in america. he talks about why the church has turned against obama care and why the church has been outmarketed on gay marriage. >>> nbc correspondent harry smith with the story of the survivor of the boston marathon bombing. he represents the true meaning of boston strong. i'm david gregory onand this is "meet the press" on sunday, december 1st. >>> good sunday morning. a big weekend for the future of president obama's landmark health care legislation, two months to the day since the troubled launch of heal healthcare.gov, they put out a report this morning saying they're making dramatic progress and the team is meeting with private sector velocity and effectiveness. that's how the website apparently is
and what will be the impact of obama care on the 2014 elections, and even perhaps the 2016 presidential race? >>> plus, an historic week for pope francis with his first major statement, attacking what he calls, quote, the idolatry of money. what continues is a whirlwind change for the vatican. i'll go one on one with cardinal timothy dolan of new york. he is one of the leading cardinals in america. he talks about why the church has turned against obama care and why the church has been...
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it's not a re-election that he's fighting for. it's about cementing his legacy and covering his accomplishments. aca is major. and just like sydney hoyer pointed out on the house floor the other day, there was the prescription drug deal that had just as many issues. so he's fighting for his legacy and he's got to continue to do that. >> angela rye and ryan grim, thanks for your time and have a great weekend. >>> ahead, a big update to a story we brought you lance month. a police officer caught on tape shooting at a van carrying children. >>> and the right wing response to nelson mandela. hypocrisy defined. we're breaking out the old tapes next. [ ship horn blows ] no, no, no! stop! humans. one day we're coming up with the theory of relativity, the next... not so much. but that's okay. you're covered with great ideas like optional better car replacement from liberty mutual insurance. total your car, and we give you the money to buy one a model year newer. learn about it at libertymutual.com. liberty mutual insurance. responsibility
it's not a re-election that he's fighting for. it's about cementing his legacy and covering his accomplishments. aca is major. and just like sydney hoyer pointed out on the house floor the other day, there was the prescription drug deal that had just as many issues. so he's fighting for his legacy and he's got to continue to do that. >> angela rye and ryan grim, thanks for your time and have a great weekend. >>> ahead, a big update to a story we brought you lance month. a police...
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as the first democratically elected president of south africa, mandela was the father of a new nation, like george washington the father of our nation, he chose deliberately to walk away from power. in doing so he reminded us that peaceful, orderly transition of power is one of the hall machines of a real -- hallmarks of a real democracy. sadly this year, for the second year in a roarks the award committee wouldn't identify one african leader who met that standard. leaders in neighboring zimbabwe, egypt, cuba and so many other nations torn by conflict and manipulated division would do well to ponder this greatness of nelson mandela. at the end of persist presidency he came to washington to receive the congressional gold medal. this congressional gold medal is the highest honoring in this congress can stow on a civilian. he vet note he was humbled to be first south african to receive it. he thanked the american people and congress for our help to bringing an end to the system of apartheid through congressionally imposed economic sanctions and other measures. these are nelson man necess
as the first democratically elected president of south africa, mandela was the father of a new nation, like george washington the father of our nation, he chose deliberately to walk away from power. in doing so he reminded us that peaceful, orderly transition of power is one of the hall machines of a real -- hallmarks of a real democracy. sadly this year, for the second year in a roarks the award committee wouldn't identify one african leader who met that standard. leaders in neighboring...
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and the people really should pay attention to whether their elected officials are scrupulously adhering to the u.s. constitution. it's their most important job. >> is there -- in comparison to what some other president did in recent history that we could sort of compare this to? >> no. i think this is quite different, actually. so, you know, president bush did occasionally claim the power not to execute certain laws because he believed that those laws were unconstitutional. that's quite a different matter. here president obama is declining execute statutes without any claim that they're unconstitutional. president obama does not believe obamacare is unconstitutional. he believes it's fantastic. he just thinks as a matter of policy and as a matter of politics it serves his purposes to defer parts of it for a year and to interpret parts of it which the text won't allow. it might superficially look a bit like president bush did. it's equally quite different no constitutional rationale for it. >> professor, thank you as always. >> good to be with you. >> no doubt about it, the obamacare rol
and the people really should pay attention to whether their elected officials are scrupulously adhering to the u.s. constitution. it's their most important job. >> is there -- in comparison to what some other president did in recent history that we could sort of compare this to? >> no. i think this is quite different, actually. so, you know, president bush did occasionally claim the power not to execute certain laws because he believed that those laws were unconstitutional. that's...
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that and the stellar job campaigning for the re-election. that does a lot. even more than that, you're not going to have a rift within the african-american community where the leadership is going one way and the base is going the other. that was an issue too. there's not going to be a tug of war. i think because the clintons showed themselves to be loyal enough within the obama project, they will be there. it won't be enough to stop them. >> joy, you're great. i've got to go. thanks so much. >>> up next, the republican national committee seems to think racism ended in this country way back in 1955. and this is "hardball," the place for politics. >>> back to "hardball." time for the sideshow. the republican national committee is back tracking today after saying yesterday that racism has ended in america. in a tweet meant to honor the work of civil rights icon rosa parks, the rnc tweeted out a image of parks with this bungled caption. quote, today we remember rosa parks' bold stand in her role in ending racism. many found this to be inaccurate and offensive. t
that and the stellar job campaigning for the re-election. that does a lot. even more than that, you're not going to have a rift within the african-american community where the leadership is going one way and the base is going the other. that was an issue too. there's not going to be a tug of war. i think because the clintons showed themselves to be loyal enough within the obama project, they will be there. it won't be enough to stop them. >> joy, you're great. i've got to go. thanks so...
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day after day they marched and said the election was rigged. they waved orange flags and wore orange scarves. and in the end they won. that mass protest movement forced a new presidential erection. the poisoned guy won. that was known as the orange resolution. he was running against an anti-western guy who was pushing for closer ties to russia. and now the pendulum is swinging back again and rather fax. the president of the eukraine rejected an opportunity to pull the country away from the grip of russia and towards the rest of europe. nine years after the first one, mass protests again in the streets of ukraine's capital city. and they are protesting against the exact same guy. the protesters were marching against the country's president. demanding that he turn his back on putin and open their country to the west. protest leaders sensing that leaders turned to their advantage. the weekend the protest did turn violent when police decided to use force. the clashes got so violent that the chief of police submitted his resignation last night. thes
day after day they marched and said the election was rigged. they waved orange flags and wore orange scarves. and in the end they won. that mass protest movement forced a new presidential erection. the poisoned guy won. that was known as the orange resolution. he was running against an anti-western guy who was pushing for closer ties to russia. and now the pendulum is swinging back again and rather fax. the president of the eukraine rejected an opportunity to pull the country away from the grip...
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some quite controversial to the leadership of the united states, were walking out, and then president-elect mandela, just moments he was having brief meetings. after he met with the vice president, there were a few reporters, and he shuffled over and very quietly and shook our hands and asked how we were doing. on this days when, that's who he was, this quiet dignity and grace. i want to show this. the vips were given this. and some of us hung around. >> you were working for the associated press. >> at the time. this is the new stamp they issued that day, commemorating the new president, but there was a new national anthem, a new flag, an there's a commemorative stamp. these are the parliament buildings, i believe they're called the union buildings, and in this courtyard is where the ceremony w ld. you ha a who's who o wld balcony in the union building, and these generals in the military white dress uniforms, white men, handing over power to nelson mandela. at that moment everybody was crying, reporters, people in the stands, it was just amazing watching these white men in white dress unifo
some quite controversial to the leadership of the united states, were walking out, and then president-elect mandela, just moments he was having brief meetings. after he met with the vice president, there were a few reporters, and he shuffled over and very quietly and shook our hands and asked how we were doing. on this days when, that's who he was, this quiet dignity and grace. i want to show this. the vips were given this. and some of us hung around. >> you were working for the...
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. >> in iran we have political elections an an popular and popr elections. >> they chose a different path this time around. and that election provided a historic opportunity to us and to the west in order to atry tro address us. you. we are not talking about sanctions. when sanctions started iran had less than 200 centrifuges and the note product has been 1880 centrifuges that has been added to iran's stock of centrifuges so sanctions have utterly failed in that regard. it seems to me that the west is trying to take advantage of the historic opportunity. we have a new government and a different approach to foreign policy. our tenants of foreign policy have not changed we insist on our rice rite an rights and we t negotiate. this can be achieved best through construction gea negotiation. >> first of all, what has happened, nick, since this deal was made and are there signs of how this is going to work? >> yeah, john, i think their initial reaction is tentatively positive. iran has allowed inspects yors intinspectors intoa plutonium pl meet in sr sri sr sri vienna ane we going to imple
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. >> the election is like which party will commit suicide last. the republicans messed up with the government shutdown, now the obama website. the concern next we'll see. >> joining me political writer, "daily beast" columnist sally cohn and contributor editor wallace walls. from washington, no longer in auburn gear although i expect his team spirit is soaring former white house secretary and founding partner of the insight agency robert gibbs. robert, i'll start with you. i will use football metaphors for fans at home and fans on set. is the white house -- is healthcare.gov are we seeing end to end a la auburn last night? is this a major play we're seeing on december 1st or are we in the middle of the field right now? >> i think the obama administration should be glad it appears to be first and ten again. it's no longer third and 35. we're a long way from 109 yard field goal return. look, i think you summed it up quite well. the users experience on the front end is greatly enhanced for most people that are using it. i never get tired of watching
. >> the election is like which party will commit suicide last. the republicans messed up with the government shutdown, now the obama website. the concern next we'll see. >> joining me political writer, "daily beast" columnist sally cohn and contributor editor wallace walls. from washington, no longer in auburn gear although i expect his team spirit is soaring former white house secretary and founding partner of the insight agency robert gibbs. robert, i'll start with you....
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you are hearing from constituents in a way a lot of other elected officials don't. what is the sense in detroit in and around this. were people thinking this happened and resigned themselves to it? what's the feeling in detroit right now? >> i think the feeling is now that you know we're into bankruptcy, we've all got to come together once again and figure out what's best for the long-term solution. i think there are people willing to come out and fight the business community, philanthropic community and citizens here. all together we have to fix the problem and fix it now. >> mayor of detroit dave bing, thank you so much for your time. >> thank you. >>> coming up pope francis is many things, the first jesuit pontiff, champion of the poor and trained chemical technician. but club bouncer? details next. when it's donut friday at the office, i use my citi thankyou card to get 2x the points at the coffee shop. which will help me get to a beach in miami and they'll be stuck at the cube farm. the citi thankyou preferred card. now earn 2x the points dining out, with no an
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i think the country woke up the day after election this year. and one little town in seattle, seatac, had raised the minimum wage to $15. it's like looking out in the spring and seeing one dad deline appear in your garden and you realize, oh, my god, here it comes. the president grabbed it. it is an absolutely ripe issue and it's going to happen all over this country. the senate will be under great pressure. >> all right. your home state has the highest minimum wage in the nation right now. $9.19. of course, sea-tac taking the lead and doing a great job with that. you've also heard about airport and hotel workers being raised up to $15 an hour. is that feasible nationwide? >> absolutely. the people who take care of us in airports, people like myself who fly 100,000 miles a year, we know that our lunch will cost maybe another nickel or another dime or whatever. but if you don't pay those people enough money so that they can live at a sustainable level, they're not going to have any money to spend in the economy. the economy will not roll if there
i think the country woke up the day after election this year. and one little town in seattle, seatac, had raised the minimum wage to $15. it's like looking out in the spring and seeing one dad deline appear in your garden and you realize, oh, my god, here it comes. the president grabbed it. it is an absolutely ripe issue and it's going to happen all over this country. the senate will be under great pressure. >> all right. your home state has the highest minimum wage in the nation right...
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election or writing the laws that that person would introduce as a legislator once they were there, i know which one i would pick. thank you very much for your time, sir, fascinating. we'll be right back. [ thunder crashes ] [ female announcer ] some people like to pretend a flood could never happen to them. and that their homeowners insurance protects them. [ thunder crashes ] it doesn't. stop pretending. only flood insurance covers floods. ♪ visit floodsmart.gov/pretend to learn your risk. i have a big meeting when we land, but i am so stuffed up, i can't rest. [ male announcer ] nyquil cold and flu liquid gels don't unstuff your nose. they don't? alka seltzer plus night fights your worst cold symptoms, plus has a decongestant. [ inhales deeply ] oh. what a relief it is. where their electricity comes from. they flip the switch-- and the light comes on. it's our job to make sure that it does. using natural gas this power plant can produce enough energy for about 600,000 homes. generating electricity that's cleaner and reliable, with fewer emissions-- it matters. ♪ >>> today, th
election or writing the laws that that person would introduce as a legislator once they were there, i know which one i would pick. thank you very much for your time, sir, fascinating. we'll be right back. [ thunder crashes ] [ female announcer ] some people like to pretend a flood could never happen to them. and that their homeowners insurance protects them. [ thunder crashes ] it doesn't. stop pretending. only flood insurance covers floods. ♪ visit floodsmart.gov/pretend to learn your risk....
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i believe, and so does our governor and all the elected officials in the surrounding area, members of congress who represent the air in westchester county we believe it presents one of the most environmental threats facing the new york metropolitan region. but new york is no longer really need to face this threat because the champlain hudson power express would deliver 1000 megawatts and our to the new york metropolitan region. and with the implication of the champlain hudson power express, security of new york's electric grid would be increased and new yorkers will have to live with the danger of -- in their own backyard. it's obviously a benefit to new york and the city of new york as obviously as was our concern. and given the great benefits of the project i really believe that it's important that it is implemented in a timely manner. so my only question is really in our effort to plan for a post-indian point new york, i'm sure that we have to make sure that we have sufficiently reliable, safe energy to replace the nuclear facility here because when some of us said that it should b
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meantime, during the radio interview today, he insisted once again he'll be re-elected next november. >>> there's a lot going on today. here are some things we thought you should know. former new york police commissioner bill bratton is returning to the post he held two decades ago. mayor elect bill de blasio says bratton knows how to keep new york safe and is the right man to reform the city's controversial stop and frisk policy. >>> massachusetts senator elizabeth warren says she's not running for president in 2016. many believe warren could mount a progressive challenge to the expected democratic front runner hillary clinton. >>> those are a couple things we thought you should know. now it's time for the gut check. we showed you the protests going on in more than 100 cities across the country. it's a campaign to raise the minimum federal wage, but the movement faces an uphill battle with a number of companies warning that they would have to raise prices if wages are hiked. according to "the new york times," industry experts suggest that prices could increase by as much as 60%. some
meantime, during the radio interview today, he insisted once again he'll be re-elected next november. >>> there's a lot going on today. here are some things we thought you should know. former new york police commissioner bill bratton is returning to the post he held two decades ago. mayor elect bill de blasio says bratton knows how to keep new york safe and is the right man to reform the city's controversial stop and frisk policy. >>> massachusetts senator elizabeth warren...
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with elections. that's kind of off the table and bible admit my party didn't do as well as we probably should have ended the other election but we did do well when we stored numbers and congress changed and then we've also talked about impeachment, which again i don't think what gets passed the senate in the current. am i missing anything? is there anything else we can do, mr. turley? >> as we said before for years i've encouraged members to consider members standing the stand-alone issue to try to find a way to establish the constitutionally or through statute to allow the members of congress. >> about your start going to get that through any amount of time. >> i published along the line and i reached this which i also testified on. >> that was in the list of -- >> what is fascinating is that because congress has been stripped of more and more of its power, it has actually put more emphasis on appointment as a way of controlling -- >> have we been stripped of it or giving it up? >> as i said it befo
with elections. that's kind of off the table and bible admit my party didn't do as well as we probably should have ended the other election but we did do well when we stored numbers and congress changed and then we've also talked about impeachment, which again i don't think what gets passed the senate in the current. am i missing anything? is there anything else we can do, mr. turley? >> as we said before for years i've encouraged members to consider members standing the stand-alone issue...
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elected that roosevelt, the other roosevelt. elected reagan got because we were mired in a deep recession and he said we can have a better way. it all does get back to jobs and the party that can show you to hat they can get work, that they can improve your income, those are the ideas we need to promote. do you do that? well, you do it with regulation, you do it with tax cuts. training. with job you do it with real education that links people to the jobs today.xist now, beyond that, you can't ignore people who live in the shadows. that's the heart. somebody is mentally ill, you tragedy in virginia yesterday. illness, drug addiction, working poor. you can't get people stuck on other side of the bridge to prosperity. we have to build a strong economy with the tools that it takes. we can debate those all day long. if you don't have balanced me tell you, alex, said if people in washington can't balance the budget, they can't understand common sense. a virtue and a value. if you can't create strong jobs, ou can't ignore the people wh
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offer of a ceasefire the drubbing at the polls the most is a key test ahead of next year's general elections india's ruling congress party suffered heavy defeats in state polls losing ground to the hindu nationalist policy and to a new anti growth policies of congress has dominated political scene for years this is the backlash of high living costs. the claims of corruption. with christmas less than three weeks away you might be looking for some suggestions for a performance to help to get you in the festive may well be off the bike gallery a here in paris is putting on a ballet adaptation of the fairy tale sleeping beauty is what you might expect. eye. let's see what's on the house. speaking of teams i think it's something i intend to pieces the sixth. it's been consistent in what is unclean and in the city. these are the devil's seeking cute is that you live. i found him if he is a time i hit the next is this something concrete to side like the idea that aliens are tools that i the eye. it's the middle of that fairy tale my fringe boots on. the supremes announcements in some cases somethin
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obama elected in a highly democratic nation, even with its racial divides. there's just no comparison. it actually doesn't surprise me, though, that we didn't hear as much about mandela in obama's books, because the truth is, you know, the president in becoming the first black president had to spend a lot of time convincing white americans he would be the president of all americans. >> race does not tread into very frequently and in some cases does not. >> unfortunately that's part of the politics of the united states, to become the first black president, he felt the need to spend a lot of time talking about his kansas roots, not his kenyan roots. >> another theme of the last few days has been the relationship mandela had to his opponents, one of grace and forgiveness and shrewd negotiation as well. hearing the president talk about what richard brought up, you can't understand your supporters but you also need to understand your opponent. seems like as much a reminder for democrats as it was a sort of signal to republicans that this is about both teams here.
obama elected in a highly democratic nation, even with its racial divides. there's just no comparison. it actually doesn't surprise me, though, that we didn't hear as much about mandela in obama's books, because the truth is, you know, the president in becoming the first black president had to spend a lot of time convincing white americans he would be the president of all americans. >> race does not tread into very frequently and in some cases does not. >> unfortunately that's part...
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republicans win elections when the government asks them to do things they can't do. >> page three of the report it says here, the team is reacting with high pressure velocity and effectiveness. that's an acknowledgment that, you know what, this was a government operation for a long time and it failed. now we're bringing in the private sector folks. that is an indictment on the whole idea of government as a solution, frankly, when you look at this. >> and the president as a manager, and people around him who can get the bureaucracy to move in a particular direction, which is not easy, but this is your point on how nimble government is. >> the challenge is i think the goals are laudible, mayor, and it's something the president articulated brilliantly as an election and reelection mantra. but this is a tough bet, and he had a responsibility to make sure the rollout was not this disastrous in order to achieve these goals. because now they're at risk of losing the credibility of government as an agent of change. >> republicans are insist he en relentless pursuit of failure. we have democr
republicans win elections when the government asks them to do things they can't do. >> page three of the report it says here, the team is reacting with high pressure velocity and effectiveness. that's an acknowledgment that, you know what, this was a government operation for a long time and it failed. now we're bringing in the private sector folks. that is an indictment on the whole idea of government as a solution, frankly, when you look at this. >> and the president as a manager,...
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we debated proposals during the last presidential election, you'll remember. no voucherizing medicare, selling insurance across state lines. those are still the main tenants republicans push and they get limited success with them. >> anyway, after hitting the white house for months over the website issue, the right has pretty much shrugged off the improvements. their message seems to be so what, the law's still unworkable. let's watch the attack. >> the president's health care law continues to wreak havoc on american families, small businesses, and our economy. and it's not just a broken website. this bill is fundamentally flawed. >> while the white house wants to claim that healthcare.gov is now working, we know that obama care is still plagued with problems. and every american deserves relief from it. >> i still think the foundations of this plan have some of the same kinds of problems that the rollout has had, but they're fundamental. very hard to overcome. >> when this website eventually gets fixed, the problems really begin for this administration. this i
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in thailand, the prime minister dissolved parliament today and called a snap election. anti-government protest leaders pressed ahead with mass demonstrations in bangkok seeking to install an unelected body to run the country. >>> in north korea, state television says jim jong-un's uncle has been removed. state media said that he was dismissed for mismanagement of north korea's financial system, corruption, womanizing and alcohol and drug abuse. those are new to north korea. he had been regarded as the second most powerful man. >>> call 2013 the year of the ipo. twitter, the container store and many others and now including our next guest, cloud-based marketing software marketto shares up 40% since it first went public back in may. phil fernandez joins us this morning. good morning. >> good morning. >> what's the difference been. >> what's the difference been? >> i want to know what the difference has been being a publicly traded company. >> i spent a lot of time with investors. i didn't have the time to start. it's actually quite smooth and quite similar so far. awarene
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. >> now, election's coming up. many think that this compromise, the fact it was bipartisan, is going to give you an edge for a second term. with our final 40 seconds here, can you give us an idea of some of the issues you're going to be underscoring as you make a run for a second term? >> you need governors that take on hard issues like pension reform, and like making sure we have marriage equality in our state. i signed that law a couple of weeks ago. that's what governors should do. i don't worry about politics. i worry about policy. i inherited terrible problems from rob blagojevich. we cleaned up the ethics, and we reformed the pension system which needed fundamental reform. >> now, with regard to chicago, which you can't speak for directly, obviously -- >> i live in chicago. >> no, i understand that. it seems like rahm emanuel is going to have issues regarding property taxes and raising property taxes, because they have a pretty big gaping deficit hole. do you have any advice or any issues that you think we ca
. >> now, election's coming up. many think that this compromise, the fact it was bipartisan, is going to give you an edge for a second term. with our final 40 seconds here, can you give us an idea of some of the issues you're going to be underscoring as you make a run for a second term? >> you need governors that take on hard issues like pension reform, and like making sure we have marriage equality in our state. i signed that law a couple of weeks ago. that's what governors should...
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they looked forward to the election of 1994 and they celebrated. they celebrated by standing in lines, anderson, for almost 24 hours anticipating that they could for the first time, many of them in their lives, vote. they wanted to be able to say that they voted for nelson mandela. it was a joyful occasion. >> and david gergen is joining us for the first time tonight. david, your thoughts on this mandela who was really an adept politician in many ways. i mean, walking that line in south africa in advance of his first election was an extraordinary thing. >> yes, absolutely right, anderson. what you find frequently among these giants who walked among us, gandhi was -- martin luther king and also nelson mandela, all three underneath were extraordinarily good politicians. so was abraham lincoln. they really understood. and they relished the exercise of power. rick stangel who knows nelson mandela better more than anybody else i've known and just written a wonderful book about him will tell you that underneath this dignity and this aura of love, there w
they looked forward to the election of 1994 and they celebrated. they celebrated by standing in lines, anderson, for almost 24 hours anticipating that they could for the first time, many of them in their lives, vote. they wanted to be able to say that they voted for nelson mandela. it was a joyful occasion. >> and david gergen is joining us for the first time tonight. david, your thoughts on this mandela who was really an adept politician in many ways. i mean, walking that line in south...
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but what's your suggestion on -- what been finally resolved the i know we said elections, if the elections are affected by decisions of the executive branch, what do the people who are the final arbiters of this definition of the constitution? >> to me are -- >> i'm asking mr. cannon. >> i think it was to meet him and get asking if there's no remedy, what did the people do. to what particular sort of abuses are you -- >> anyone on the list of the enumerated powers, for example, any with the question of war because that's the starkest of all. >> there is a procedure in the constitution that allows peoplee people to amend the constitution without going through congress. that is another method where the people can try to restrain executive spent you suggest then if that should happen why would an executive with such disrespect for the constitution today on an amended constitution from the constitutional convention? >> that is an excellent question. >> i would like to turn to mr. turley. he's had a chance to reflect upon the earlier statement of the situation that we are in, and where this goe
but what's your suggestion on -- what been finally resolved the i know we said elections, if the elections are affected by decisions of the executive branch, what do the people who are the final arbiters of this definition of the constitution? >> to me are -- >> i'm asking mr. cannon. >> i think it was to meet him and get asking if there's no remedy, what did the people do. to what particular sort of abuses are you -- >> anyone on the list of the enumerated powers, for...
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he announced that he will not be running for re-election. >>> well, a full court press. at 2:30 this afternoon, the president goes all in with a december pr push to promote healthcare.gov and congressional underachievers. congress is about to go down as the least productive in our history. those are the topics for our agenda panel. suzy khimm is a national correspondent for msnbc, ron reagan is an msnbc analyst and steve benen is a contributor and producer for the rachel maddow show. i like this. suzy, the administration is feeling certainly confident enough to sell now to the public. is this going to be enough to combat the perception issues and the problems that they had initially with the rollout? >> so basically the obama administration is transitioning from this period in which it's trying to get the technical side of things to working to actually selling the law itself, which at this point is still a major task. the law is definitely going to disrupt health insurance in both positive ways and for some, some negative ways. so basically the administration is basicall
he announced that he will not be running for re-election. >>> well, a full court press. at 2:30 this afternoon, the president goes all in with a december pr push to promote healthcare.gov and congressional underachievers. congress is about to go down as the least productive in our history. those are the topics for our agenda panel. suzy khimm is a national correspondent for msnbc, ron reagan is an msnbc analyst and steve benen is a contributor and producer for the rachel maddow show. i...
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that and the stellar job campaigning for the re-election. that does a lot. even more than that, you're not going to have a rift within the african-american community where the leadership is going one way and the base is going the other. that was an issue too. there's not going to be a tug of war. i think because the clintons showed themselves to be loyal enough within the obama project, they will be there. it won't be enough to stop them. >> joy, you're great. i've got to go. thanks so much. >>> up next, the republican national committee seems to think racism ended in this country way back in 1955. and this is "hardball," the place for politics. we're aig. and we're here. to help secure retirements and protect financial futures. to help communities recover and rebuild. for companies going from garage to global. on the ground, in the air, even into space. we repaid every dollar america lent us. and gave america back a profit. we're here to keep our promises. to help you realize a better tomorrow. from the families of aig, happy holidays. she loves a lot of it
that and the stellar job campaigning for the re-election. that does a lot. even more than that, you're not going to have a rift within the african-american community where the leadership is going one way and the base is going the other. that was an issue too. there's not going to be a tug of war. i think because the clintons showed themselves to be loyal enough within the obama project, they will be there. it won't be enough to stop them. >> joy, you're great. i've got to go. thanks so...
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and the mayor-elect. we're excited longer term about it. we're on our way back up. stay tuned on detroit. >> bill, good to talk to you. thanks for being here. >> scott, thank you. >> let's trade housing stocks. where's the value? >> you see, i don't think the value's in the homebuilders, and why gamble on them. rates have always been the detriment of the stocks, number one. number two, i think it's a mistake to rely on prior single family home creation given that the banks are much tighter, and what they did back then is not going to recur, at least in our lifetime. >> judge? >> so go with the building products. >> ingersoll, rand, i like them because of train and shlege, the lock company. i know it's not as pure a pick as bill likes, but i like these guys and the diversification of the stock, i think, gives you upside well into 2015. >> agree with ingersoll completely, and another way to playhousing recovery is the mortgage insurers, on a company like genworth, and other ways to play it rather than just owning the hole builders. >> i have to agree with weiss. i lik
and the mayor-elect. we're excited longer term about it. we're on our way back up. stay tuned on detroit. >> bill, good to talk to you. thanks for being here. >> scott, thank you. >> let's trade housing stocks. where's the value? >> you see, i don't think the value's in the homebuilders, and why gamble on them. rates have always been the detriment of the stocks, number one. number two, i think it's a mistake to rely on prior single family home creation given that the...